Thanks for you Disqus explanation. I wanted to start using Disqus, but was not a blog owner, I realized that you have to be one in order to use their service. So I tried cocomment, which centralizes comments as well, and I do not need to own a blog. If I did, and wanted to bring previous comments I understand that they do that as well, you will find not only yours but all previous ones as well. Thanks
craigchilds
· 1 year ago
I would love to see Disqus put in a bookmarklet like cocomment and completely remove the need for those sites; although I think co.mments.com is an excellent application.
I haven't noticed Disqus import this blog's previous comments into it's system. It would be great if it did, but for me, it isn't such a big deal at this stage.
Andy C
· 1 year ago
I don't understand. You don't need to blog to get a Disqus account and track all comments you leave on Disqus enabled blogs.
I also believe you can register with Disqus and then 'claim' the 'elpollo' identity (and all comments left to date). You can also rate comments with a Disqus account and accumulate Clout points.
I also think you might even be able to start your own threads on Disqus - a bit like blogging without the bother of having a blog. You could also feed your Disqus comments and have a mini-blog.
I think epollo understands you don't need your own site to use Disqus - he's using it himself without a site.
I think he was trying to justify using Disqus over a dedicated comment tracking service like cocomment.
Andy C
· 1 year ago
Oh I see. Apologies for any unintended patronising words.
As for 'co.comment' - don't even get me started !
MntRider
· 1 year ago
If I get you correctly, you will be able to follow conversations you participate on a Disqus enabled blog only. What about the comments you leave on other blogs ? (still 99% of the blogs I'm afraid) I think elpollo point is clearly that as not being a blog owner, he is interested only in the comment tracking.
Andy C
· 1 year ago
That's an interesting point. Disqus may be only enabled on 1% of all blogs in the universe.
However, the ratio increases significantly when I purely consider the blogs I regularly visit and comment on. I suspect the percentage of Disqus enabled blogs may be as high as 75%.
Jonathan
· 1 year ago
I just implemented Disqus too - it will be interesting to see how much takeup they get among the more famous blogs.
Interesting post. I have just been listening to some of Leo Laporte's podcasts today while commuting, and hadn't really thought about the "horizontal" nature of the Disqus platform - it's nice to be in on something early for a change too.
craigchilds
· 1 year ago
Horizontal as in a discussion between different blogs on the same topic? Very true. That's why I'm so excited by Disqus; it's setting the platform that opens up the discussion beyond individual sites.
When they plug Disqus into Friendfeed.com, then we'll be smoking.
martin_english
· 1 year ago
Hi Craig, Disqus is a valid servcie on friedndfeed (or you coul add it as a blog)
Disqus is not listed as one of the 'usual' servces - you'll need to go to your account tab, edit/add services, and on the resulting page select 'See all 35 services »'
True, adding your disqus comments to friendfeed is easy. just like another blog. i'm more interested in friendfeed using disqus to power their own comments. comment on a link, it goes to a disqus discussion. yeh?
Andy C
· 1 year ago
Early ? Call yourself early. We've all been here for ages. What kept you so long ?
Maybe we should just call you 'Jonathan Come Lately' :-)
José
· 1 year ago
Hi! I would like to know why do you believe that Disqus is better than cocomment.com or co.mments.com. I´ve using coComment also; it´s an awesome tool and I would hardly change it.
Thanks! Jose
craigchilds
· 1 year ago
the biggest difference now is that disqus offers a platform that doesn't require signing up. there are three things to this statement: the first is cocomment hasn't always had options to embed their system into a publisher's comment platform. when i used cocomment, it was bloated so i moved to co.mments which wasn't feature-rich enough. second, disqus is it's own comment platform. this means you are able to plug it into things that don't already have comments enabled. tumblr for instance. third, anyone who isn't interested in disqus tracking comments, doesn't need to sign up.
for me, disqus exhibits the right mix of features vs. speed with the right attitude towards integration.
i would like to hear what you can add about cocomment, Jose, since it's been quite some time since i used it.
Kiki
· 1 year ago
I'll take a shot at responding as I'm also a coComment user and I have my own blog. For my blog, I have integrated with coComment, which also gives you the option to power your comments, the process was easy and simple, I found instructions in the tools for site owners area. So to answer your question, you can embed coComment into a publisher's comment platform.
Most importantly though, what I love about it is that it works on ANY site, not just those that are enabled ... even on sites that don't offer commenting, the plug-in allows you to post a comment that will appear in your cocomment account. So, with that you don't need to use 3 different tools, Disqus for their sites, then cocomment or others for those non-Disqus enabled sites. You can centraliize all comments in one place, which is great for me as I have a hard time managing all my accounts and tools already.
Now regarding the sign up, if you are site owner and you want to integrate with coComment, they can customize the registration process to whatever works for you ... I've contacted their integration folks and they were super helpful in walking me through the extra bells and whistles they offer for publishers ...
Hope that helps! Kiki
craigchilds
· 1 year ago
Kiki, this bit: So, with that you don’t need to use 3 different tools, Disqus for their sites, then cocomment or others for those non-Disqus enabled sites. That's actually a bit of an eye opener. Good point. I guess the question now is which platform is better suited. Do I shift to something like cocomment, stick with disqus or move back to wordpress?
MntRider
· 1 year ago
Interesting: what is better is Disqus compared to Wordpress commenting ? What would justify the move ? I'm setting up my own WP blog and I do not see anything bad in WP comments: it's fast, it's reliable, it's simple.
craigchilds
· 1 year ago
that's something i'm fleshing out at the moment. the responses from everyone have been great.
there is nothing wrong with wordpress' commenting. you're right, it is great. only it doesn't support any of the features we seem to be interested here: tracking and community.
disqus, more than tracking comments, is pulling comments together in one place - atm, from here and from my tumblr. whether this is worthwhile is the question.
MntRider
· 1 year ago
Kiki: How do you contact coComment integration guys ? I would like to talk to them regarding my new blog.
Something strange on your blog: I found this url on Technorati: http://crrrg.com/why-i8217m-usingnbspdisqus-231... This looks like the URL of a comment on this post, but when I click on it, I get a 404 error. Where is that coming from ?
craigchilds
· 1 year ago
i was testing pulling disqus comments back into my blog. probably a bad idea from the start, but it was nice seeing all your comments pop up on my front page. i've disabled this now.
MntRider
· 1 year ago
Testing one thing this Disqus: can I really comment o this conversation from Disqus site rather than on my blog ? If yes, then I do not like this: I want my traffic ;-) I joke (half), more important to me: I think my readers/commenters should have a single experience with my site. That they can track this conversation via Disqus is Ok, but commenting should stay on my site. I think I will definitely go the coComment way: not sure if I will give them my conversation (and, actually, I do not know why I should do so), or just do the simple integration, but I will use it mainly to help my readers to track conversations on my blog.
craigchilds
· 1 year ago
this is the same argument i've seen pop up over at friendfeed.com, where you can comment on posts, links etc there and not on the linked sites. i think it's very much worthwhile having conversations available on platforms like these. you will have a separation that you may not be comfortable with atm, but you'll have to embrace this kind thing.
take for example a link to one of your articles being posted by a friend on twitter and then the resulting conversation their followers have regarding your post. you won't see any of this on your site, but i think it is still good for you and your site.
MntRider
· 1 year ago
Not sure this is exactly the same: the issue with FriendFeed and others is fragmentation: multiple conversations on the same article. With Disqus, people can comment on Disqus site and do not need to come back to your site. You then loose all the "surrounding", like sidebar widgets that can show your commenters other information from you (not even to mention ads if you have some): last articles, last comments, links.......
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I haven't noticed Disqus import this blog's previous comments into it's system. It would be great if it did, but for me, it isn't such a big deal at this stage.
I also believe you can register with Disqus and then 'claim' the 'elpollo' identity (and all comments left to date). You can also rate comments with a Disqus account and accumulate Clout points.
I also think you might even be able to start your own threads on Disqus - a bit like blogging without the bother of having a blog. You could also feed your Disqus comments and have a mini-blog.
See http://disqus.com/help/ for more details.
The possibilities are endless.
I think he was trying to justify using Disqus over a dedicated comment tracking service like cocomment.
As for 'co.comment' - don't even get me started !
I think elpollo point is clearly that as not being a blog owner, he is interested only in the comment tracking.
However, the ratio increases significantly when I purely consider the blogs I regularly visit and comment on. I suspect the percentage of Disqus enabled blogs may be as high as 75%.
Interesting post. I have just been listening to some of Leo Laporte's podcasts today while commuting, and hadn't really thought about the "horizontal" nature of the Disqus platform - it's nice to be in on something early for a change too.
When they plug Disqus into Friendfeed.com, then we'll be smoking.
Disqus is a valid servcie on friedndfeed (or you coul add it as a blog)
Disqus is not listed as one of the 'usual' servces - you'll need to go to your account tab, edit/add services, and on the resulting page select 'See all 35 services »'
Look for the funny D ( http://friendfeed.com/static/images/icons/disqu... )
i'm more interested in friendfeed using disqus to power their own comments. comment on a link, it goes to a disqus discussion. yeh?
Maybe we should just call you 'Jonathan Come Lately' :-)
Thanks!
Jose
there are three things to this statement:
the first is cocomment hasn't always had options to embed their system into a publisher's comment platform. when i used cocomment, it was bloated so i moved to co.mments which wasn't feature-rich enough.
second, disqus is it's own comment platform. this means you are able to plug it into things that don't already have comments enabled. tumblr for instance.
third, anyone who isn't interested in disqus tracking comments, doesn't need to sign up.
for me, disqus exhibits the right mix of features vs. speed with the right attitude towards integration.
i would like to hear what you can add about cocomment, Jose, since it's been quite some time since i used it.
Most importantly though, what I love about it is that it works on ANY site, not just those that are enabled ... even on sites that don't offer commenting, the plug-in allows you to post a comment that will appear in your cocomment account. So, with that you don't need to use 3 different tools, Disqus for their sites, then cocomment or others for those non-Disqus enabled sites. You can centraliize all comments in one place, which is great for me as I have a hard time managing all my accounts and tools already.
Now regarding the sign up, if you are site owner and you want to integrate with coComment, they can customize the registration process to whatever works for you ... I've contacted their integration folks and they were super helpful in walking me through the extra bells and whistles they offer for publishers ...
Hope that helps!
Kiki
So, with that you don’t need to use 3 different tools, Disqus for their sites, then cocomment or others for those non-Disqus enabled sites.
That's actually a bit of an eye opener. Good point.
I guess the question now is which platform is better suited. Do I shift to something like cocomment, stick with disqus or move back to wordpress?
I'm setting up my own WP blog and I do not see anything bad in WP comments: it's fast, it's reliable, it's simple.
there is nothing wrong with wordpress' commenting. you're right, it is great. only it doesn't support any of the features we seem to be interested here: tracking and community.
disqus, more than tracking comments, is pulling comments together in one place - atm, from here and from my tumblr. whether this is worthwhile is the question.
Thanks a lot.
I have used this email, integration@cocomment.com and have gotten very good response. Or at their home page, http://www.cocomment.com/tools/integrate
Good luck!
This looks like the URL of a comment on this post, but when I click on it, I get a 404 error. Where is that coming from ?
If yes, then I do not like this: I want my traffic ;-) I joke (half), more important to me: I think my readers/commenters should have a single experience with my site. That they can track this conversation via Disqus is Ok, but commenting should stay on my site.
I think I will definitely go the coComment way: not sure if I will give them my conversation (and, actually, I do not know why I should do so), or just do the simple integration, but I will use it mainly to help my readers to track conversations on my blog.
take for example a link to one of your articles being posted by a friend on twitter and then the resulting conversation their followers have regarding your post. you won't see any of this on your site, but i think it is still good for you and your site.
With Disqus, people can comment on Disqus site and do not need to come back to your site. You then loose all the "surrounding", like sidebar widgets that can show your commenters other information from you (not even to mention ads if you have some): last articles, last comments, links.......